Cuatro humoristas salían anoche en el programa televisivo de Mònica Terribas en TV3, “La nit al dia”. Uno era Toni Batllori, que hace las viñetas de humor de la sección “Política” en La Vanguardia. Otro era el muy anticlerical dibujante José Antonio Fernández, “Fer”. Otro era Manel Lucas, un responsable del programa estrella de humor “Polònia”, de TV3. Y otro, José Luis Martín, un dibujante gráfico de El Jueves.
Los cuatro coincidieron: hoy ya no hay censura pero no pueden hacer chistes de “ciertos colectivos” y mencionaron dos muy concretos: los homosexuales y las feministas. “No puedes hacer chistes sobre ellos, porque luego has de justificar que no estás contra ellos, y te dan toques, y hay una línea editorial…” En cambio, hace ya muchos años que no hay problema en hacer chistes de obispos, políticos, el Papa y los obispos, etc…
Un periodista de La Tribuna de Albacete llamado Dimas Cuevas rompió el tabú. Escribió en clave de humor que “en las bodas de lesbianas debe haber distintos tipos de tortillas” y, como es candidato al Senado por el PP, la prensa pro-gay llena portadas llamándole “homófobo”.
“Llevo más de 25 años haciendo artículos de opinión y de ellos la mayor parte con carácter jocoso, humorístico, es evidente que me he reído de los homosexuales y de las lesbianas también, como me he reído de casi todo el mundo, y de mí también, de mí el primero. Y de momento ningún juez me ha llamado a declarar por ello. Es bueno que nos podamos reír por ello”, ha declarado el periodista ante el akelarre mediático que le han montado.
El caso de Dimas Cuevas demuestra lo que decían los 4 humoristas catalanes anoche: es tabú hacer humor con los gays.
¿Se imaginan una portada como la del Jueves -aquella del príncipe Felipe y la princesa Leticia- pero poniendo en la misma pose a políticos homosexuales como Pedro Zerolo y Miquel Iceta? Hasta que no se haga, no habrá libertad de expresión en España. El homosexualismo político no debería ser tabú para los humoristas. ¡Queremos sátiras de gays y feministas como las hay de todos los demás colectivos!
Interesante comentario, Pol. Dos apuntes con respecto a lo que planteas:
1) Si echas en falta más humor a costa de homosexuales y feministas, tienes toda una caudalosa tradición a la que recurrir. Desde “Mary Poppins” hasta el repertorio de chistes de mariquitas que llevó a Andrés Pajares a querer “redimirse” con aquella serie ñoña titulada “Tío Willy”. Por supuesto, hoy en día no abundan tanto, pero se sigue haciendo y a veces con excelentes resultados artísticos y comerciales; piensa en “Los productores”, el musical de Mel Brooks (el más taquillero y premiado de la historia de Broadway), o en las obras de Paul Rudnick, comediógrafo gay con un afilado sentido de la sátira: échale un vistazo a las películas que ha escrito, como “Jeffrey” o “Las mujeres perfectas” (o incluso a “In & Out”), y me cuentas.
2) Respecto a lo que dicen José Luis Martín y compañía, creo que pasas por alto un detalle importante. No es tanto que NO PUEDAN hacer cierto tipo de chistes (J. L. Martín ha sido director de “El Jueves” y a día de hoy sigue ocupando una posición de peso en su estructura organizativa); más bien prefieren ahorrarse problemas (lo cual es muy legítimo). No me parece una distinción baladí. Desde luego, aplaudo su honestidad: por lo general, solemos vender el humor como una suerte de instrumento para la defensa de la verdad y la justicia. Sin embargo, muy a menudo desplegamos ese discurso “ilustrado” y “progresista” precisamente para ocultar nuestra tendencia a seguir la corriente y ahorrarnos situaciones incómodas. Nos presentamos como paladines del pensamiento crítico en tanto amoldamos la sátira a conveniencias coyunturales. Curiosamente, a menudo quienes lo admiten públicamente (como la gente de “El Jueves”) en realidad son más propensos a arriesgarse (¿idealistas románticos, en el fondo?) que quienes defienden a ultranza la pureza insobornable de su obra. Ahí siguen cada semana (o seguían la última vez que miré) las cargas de profundidad del llorado Ivà.
No, me temo que afirmar que no hay libertad de expresión es victimismo.
Yo creo, como humorista que soy, que hay determinados colectivos
que son mas propensos a crear humor. El problema, de base, no los tenemos los humoristas, sino aquellos colectivos ( parte de ellos, evidentemente), que no son capaces de entender el humor como critica constructiva, o simplemente , crítica.
Y entienden , un ataque frontal a sus posturas.
Por un victimismo asimilado por ellos.
Por esa regla de tres no debería hacer chistes sobre minusvalidos,
calvos, peludos, gordos, flacos, cultos, incultos,inteligentes,
imbéciles, sordos , mudos, ciegos, tuertos,cojos,
viejos, separados, divorciados,bizcos, tartamudos,
rubios, morenos,blancos, negros, cristianos,
judíos, árabes, hindues,
muertos y vivos en general.
Tampoco debería hacer humor sobre los extraterrestres,
y como sólo quedo yo,
no debería hacer humor sobre mi mismo,
para que digan que soy un ególatra.
Ustedes me dirán…
Me permitira vuesa eminencia revedendísima que discrepe ligeramente sobre vuesa eminente escritura.
A mi modesto entender sería: Villafurruña y lo de abajo o arriba depende de cada pareja, máxime hoy día de san Valentín, aunque pienso que al existir Villafurruña de Abajo, habrá -digo yo- otra Villafurruña de Arriba.
Perdone vuesa eminencia revedendísima por la intromisión.
Fieles y fielas, incluido Antoño:
No existe Villafuruña de arriba.
Existe ” Villafurruña de que os jodeis que estamos más altos que vosotros ”
Esto fue idea de su alcalde, un socialista judeo-masónico y anti-familiar.
Pero eso lo contaré en mi próximo sermón del domingo.
sed buenos…
Veo que aprende rápido.
Como nosotros, “erre que erre”
Pero eso lo explicaré en el serrrrrrrrrrrrmón del próximo domingo.
Lo he titulado:” pobrecillo losantos, por todos los santos”
Sed buenos, o al menos
de derechas.
Quedo supermacro agradecido a vuesa eminencia reverendísima y beso su eminente mano al recordame nuevamente entre sus fieles.
Con todo el dolor de mi corazón lamento indicarle que el próximo domingo -es decir hoy- no podré acudir a vueso sapiente sermón en Villafurruña … al no ser esa mi sede ¡Y además, que me pilla supermacrolejos! (Donde ‘leshe’ estará Villafuruña … ).
Quedó a vuesos piés revendísimo e impaciente por vuesas sapientes palabras sermoneras. Continuaré siendo buenoooooooo.
Te he excomulgado, ¡ ale!.
¡ sanseacabó!
Habla con el Papa o lo que sea…
¿ que dónde queda el famoso pueblo de Villafurruña ?
¿ pero tu dónde vives, hijo de dios ( y excomulgado ) ?
¿ y tú aprovaste la selectividad?
excomulgado no, excomulgadisimo.
Ale acta est, o como coño se diga.
Volverá a disculparme vuesa eminente eminencia reverendísima mi atrevimiento en preguntar a vuesa eminencia ¿qué es excomulgar? ¿qué es excomulgadísimo? !!viniendo de vuesa eminencia sapientísima deberá ser cosa muy buena!!
Vuesa eminencia reverendísima tiene el don de la adivinación. Cuando yo pensaba qué dónde estaría vuesa eminente sede: Villafuruña, ¡¡¡vuesa eminencia lo ha conocido!!!
Vuesa eminencia deberá cuidar su vocabulario y sapiente escritura para no meter el ‘pinrel’ (aprobaste) y no introducir palabras mal sonantes, impropias de vuesa eminencia reverendísima.
Todo lo que ti quieras,hijo mío, pero tu no Haprovaste selectibidad, y estas
ex-komulgado. Y no te pongas tanto a mis pies, y estudia un poquito más,
so infiel.
excomulgar: expulsar de la comunión a los fieles.
ale!
Perdonarán nuevamente vuesas eminencias reverendísimas que me dirija a ambas.
Por correo certificado urgente le envíe a vuesa sede de Villafuruña de Abajo los 300 padres míos (¡qué son míos y no nuestros, que lo ‘escrivio’ yo!) para que vuesas me levanten eso tan feo que se escribe con hache (como la tía esa de la TV que sale en la madrugá) y con ka.
Siguiendo su eminente consejo no me pongo a sus pies (qué ya estaba ‘jarto’ de tantas genuflexiones). Seré infiel, pero entero, no estoy ‘hesho peazo’.
El arrepentimiento de tus pecados, y mi arcibondad, hace que te exima de todos tus pecados.
Puedes marcharte en paz. ( O en moto o en coche )
y se bueno.
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He waved to a expressionless tun apart from us, and I returned his indication with a nod. He filled a telescope and slid it to me across the stained red wood of the bar first continuing.
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¿Habrá un problema en la siguiente ocasión que nos den instrecciones para confeccionarla? No todo el mundo es tan mañoso para efectuar la decoración.
Todavía, fieles y fielas, nos queda el microondas.
A toda potencia, y con grill.
muajaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
matemos infieles
Cuatro humoristas salían anoche en el programa televisivo de Mònica Terribas en TV3, “La nit al dia”. Uno era Toni Batllori, que hace las viñetas de humor de la sección “Política” en La Vanguardia. Otro era el muy anticlerical dibujante José Antonio Fernández, “Fer”. Otro era Manel Lucas, un responsable del programa estrella de humor “Polònia”, de TV3. Y otro, José Luis Martín, un dibujante gráfico de El Jueves.
Los cuatro coincidieron: hoy ya no hay censura pero no pueden hacer chistes de “ciertos colectivos” y mencionaron dos muy concretos: los homosexuales y las feministas. “No puedes hacer chistes sobre ellos, porque luego has de justificar que no estás contra ellos, y te dan toques, y hay una línea editorial…” En cambio, hace ya muchos años que no hay problema en hacer chistes de obispos, políticos, el Papa y los obispos, etc…
Un periodista de La Tribuna de Albacete llamado Dimas Cuevas rompió el tabú. Escribió en clave de humor que “en las bodas de lesbianas debe haber distintos tipos de tortillas” y, como es candidato al Senado por el PP, la prensa pro-gay llena portadas llamándole “homófobo”.
“Llevo más de 25 años haciendo artículos de opinión y de ellos la mayor parte con carácter jocoso, humorístico, es evidente que me he reído de los homosexuales y de las lesbianas también, como me he reído de casi todo el mundo, y de mí también, de mí el primero. Y de momento ningún juez me ha llamado a declarar por ello. Es bueno que nos podamos reír por ello”, ha declarado el periodista ante el akelarre mediático que le han montado.
El caso de Dimas Cuevas demuestra lo que decían los 4 humoristas catalanes anoche: es tabú hacer humor con los gays.
¿Se imaginan una portada como la del Jueves -aquella del príncipe Felipe y la princesa Leticia- pero poniendo en la misma pose a políticos homosexuales como Pedro Zerolo y Miquel Iceta? Hasta que no se haga, no habrá libertad de expresión en España. El homosexualismo político no debería ser tabú para los humoristas. ¡Queremos sátiras de gays y feministas como las hay de todos los demás colectivos!
Interesante comentario, Pol. Dos apuntes con respecto a lo que planteas:
1) Si echas en falta más humor a costa de homosexuales y feministas, tienes toda una caudalosa tradición a la que recurrir. Desde “Mary Poppins” hasta el repertorio de chistes de mariquitas que llevó a Andrés Pajares a querer “redimirse” con aquella serie ñoña titulada “Tío Willy”. Por supuesto, hoy en día no abundan tanto, pero se sigue haciendo y a veces con excelentes resultados artísticos y comerciales; piensa en “Los productores”, el musical de Mel Brooks (el más taquillero y premiado de la historia de Broadway), o en las obras de Paul Rudnick, comediógrafo gay con un afilado sentido de la sátira: échale un vistazo a las películas que ha escrito, como “Jeffrey” o “Las mujeres perfectas” (o incluso a “In & Out”), y me cuentas.
2) Respecto a lo que dicen José Luis Martín y compañía, creo que pasas por alto un detalle importante. No es tanto que NO PUEDAN hacer cierto tipo de chistes (J. L. Martín ha sido director de “El Jueves” y a día de hoy sigue ocupando una posición de peso en su estructura organizativa); más bien prefieren ahorrarse problemas (lo cual es muy legítimo). No me parece una distinción baladí. Desde luego, aplaudo su honestidad: por lo general, solemos vender el humor como una suerte de instrumento para la defensa de la verdad y la justicia. Sin embargo, muy a menudo desplegamos ese discurso “ilustrado” y “progresista” precisamente para ocultar nuestra tendencia a seguir la corriente y ahorrarnos situaciones incómodas. Nos presentamos como paladines del pensamiento crítico en tanto amoldamos la sátira a conveniencias coyunturales. Curiosamente, a menudo quienes lo admiten públicamente (como la gente de “El Jueves”) en realidad son más propensos a arriesgarse (¿idealistas románticos, en el fondo?) que quienes defienden a ultranza la pureza insobornable de su obra. Ahí siguen cada semana (o seguían la última vez que miré) las cargas de profundidad del llorado Ivà.
No, me temo que afirmar que no hay libertad de expresión es victimismo.
Yo creo, como humorista que soy, que hay determinados colectivos
que son mas propensos a crear humor. El problema, de base, no los tenemos los humoristas, sino aquellos colectivos ( parte de ellos, evidentemente), que no son capaces de entender el humor como critica constructiva, o simplemente , crítica.
Y entienden , un ataque frontal a sus posturas.
Por un victimismo asimilado por ellos.
Por esa regla de tres no debería hacer chistes sobre minusvalidos,
calvos, peludos, gordos, flacos, cultos, incultos,inteligentes,
imbéciles, sordos , mudos, ciegos, tuertos,cojos,
viejos, separados, divorciados,bizcos, tartamudos,
rubios, morenos,blancos, negros, cristianos,
judíos, árabes, hindues,
muertos y vivos en general.
Tampoco debería hacer humor sobre los extraterrestres,
y como sólo quedo yo,
no debería hacer humor sobre mi mismo,
para que digan que soy un ególatra.
Ustedes me dirán…
¡¡Fácil, Sr. As, quitemos la regla de tres!!
Me permitira vuesa eminencia revedendísima que discrepe ligeramente sobre vuesa eminente escritura.
A mi modesto entender sería: Villafurruña y lo de abajo o arriba depende de cada pareja, máxime hoy día de san Valentín, aunque pienso que al existir Villafurruña de Abajo, habrá -digo yo- otra Villafurruña de Arriba.
Perdone vuesa eminencia revedendísima por la intromisión.
Fieles y fielas, incluido Antoño:
No existe Villafuruña de arriba.
Existe ” Villafurruña de que os jodeis que estamos más altos que vosotros ”
Esto fue idea de su alcalde, un socialista judeo-masónico y anti-familiar.
Pero eso lo contaré en mi próximo sermón del domingo.
sed buenos…
Quedo super agradecido a vuesa eminencia reverendísima y beso su eminente mano al recordame entre sus fieles.
Perdonara vuesa eminencia el atrevimiento de queder enmendar vuesa sapiente escritura, pero modestamente creo que deberá ser: Villafuruña ….
Queda a sus revendísimos pies. Seré bueno.
Veo que aprende rápido.
Como nosotros, “erre que erre”
Pero eso lo explicaré en el serrrrrrrrrrrrmón del próximo domingo.
Lo he titulado:” pobrecillo losantos, por todos los santos”
Sed buenos, o al menos
de derechas.
Quedo supermacro agradecido a vuesa eminencia reverendísima y beso su eminente mano al recordame nuevamente entre sus fieles.
Con todo el dolor de mi corazón lamento indicarle que el próximo domingo -es decir hoy- no podré acudir a vueso sapiente sermón en Villafurruña … al no ser esa mi sede ¡Y además, que me pilla supermacrolejos! (Donde ‘leshe’ estará Villafuruña … ).
Quedó a vuesos piés revendísimo e impaciente por vuesas sapientes palabras sermoneras. Continuaré siendo buenoooooooo.
Te he excomulgado, ¡ ale!.
¡ sanseacabó!
Habla con el Papa o lo que sea…
¿ que dónde queda el famoso pueblo de Villafurruña ?
¿ pero tu dónde vives, hijo de dios ( y excomulgado ) ?
¿ y tú aprovaste la selectividad?
excomulgado no, excomulgadisimo.
Ale acta est, o como coño se diga.
y con toda la razón…
Volverá a disculparme vuesa eminente eminencia reverendísima mi atrevimiento en preguntar a vuesa eminencia ¿qué es excomulgar? ¿qué es excomulgadísimo? !!viniendo de vuesa eminencia sapientísima deberá ser cosa muy buena!!
Vuesa eminencia reverendísima tiene el don de la adivinación. Cuando yo pensaba qué dónde estaría vuesa eminente sede: Villafuruña, ¡¡¡vuesa eminencia lo ha conocido!!!
Vuesa eminencia deberá cuidar su vocabulario y sapiente escritura para no meter el ‘pinrel’ (aprobaste) y no introducir palabras mal sonantes, impropias de vuesa eminencia reverendísima.
Quedó a vuesos piés revendísimos.
Todo lo que ti quieras,hijo mío, pero tu no Haprovaste selectibidad, y estas
ex-komulgado. Y no te pongas tanto a mis pies, y estudia un poquito más,
so infiel.
excomulgar: expulsar de la comunión a los fieles.
ale!
Y además , los curas podemos decir tacos:
¡ hostia!
Mire usted, pedazo de infiel:
Vamos a dejarlo en 300 “Padrenuestros “,
pero por escrito, y ya veré yo si le absuelvo,
o no.
Estamos con el archiobispo,y si te han
hex-komugado, será por algo.
Perdonarán nuevamente vuesas eminencias reverendísimas que me dirija a ambas.
Por correo certificado urgente le envíe a vuesa sede de Villafuruña de Abajo los 300 padres míos (¡qué son míos y no nuestros, que lo ‘escrivio’ yo!) para que vuesas me levanten eso tan feo que se escribe con hache (como la tía esa de la TV que sale en la madrugá) y con ka.
Siguiendo su eminente consejo no me pongo a sus pies (qué ya estaba ‘jarto’ de tantas genuflexiones). Seré infiel, pero entero, no estoy ‘hesho peazo’.
El arrepentimiento de tus pecados, y mi arcibondad, hace que te exima de todos tus pecados.
Puedes marcharte en paz. ( O en moto o en coche )
y se bueno.
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He waved to a expressionless tun apart from us, and I returned his indication with a nod. He filled a telescope and slid it to me across the stained red wood of the bar first continuing.
“As a betting fellow, I’d be assenting to wager a fair portion of silver you’re in Ebonscale Reach for the purpose more than the wet one’s whistle and sights,” he said, eyes glancing from the sword sheathed on my cool to the bend slung across my back.
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